Comments on: Day 40: Capitalism 3.0 V. 1.2 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/ JETSAM–[noun]: goods cast overboard deliberately, as to lighten a vessel or improve its stability Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:58:38 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: caveblogem http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-249 caveblogem Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:16:18 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-249 I'm with the others CJ. Your blog is a lot of up with which to keep. . . . Um. I should probably read the capitalism posts that came before this but I don't have the strength, I'm afraid. Perhaps tomorrow. Regarding the restructuring of productive relations within the productive process itself, have you ever read B.F. Skinner's <i>Walden Two</i>? The University where I work is doing some interesting things as well, particularly at its Lowell Center for Sustainable Production. Oh, and our Provost wrote an interesting book in which you might find some of the theoretical viewpoints fleshed out just a little. It's called <i>The Point of Production<i>. Sorry about the plugs, sort of off-topic from your purely theoretical pursuits. Enjoyable posts. I look forward to reading the rest. I’m with the others CJ. Your blog is a lot of up with which to keep. . . . Um. I should probably read the capitalism posts that came before this but I don’t have the strength, I’m afraid. Perhaps tomorrow.

Regarding the restructuring of productive relations within the productive process itself, have you ever read B.F. Skinner’s Walden Two?

The University where I work is doing some interesting things as well, particularly at its Lowell Center for Sustainable Production. Oh, and our Provost wrote an interesting book in which you might find some of the theoretical viewpoints fleshed out just a little. It’s called The Point of Production. Sorry about the plugs, sort of off-topic from your purely theoretical pursuits. Enjoyable posts. I look forward to reading the rest.

]]> By: skunkcabbage http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-241 skunkcabbage Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:36:55 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-241 I'm going to tackle System of Objects (the neat new brown Verso Radical Thinkers edition) soon. I'm sorry I haven't had a lot of useful things to say of late. Feel as though I'm 100 years behind the times. ;) I’m going to tackle System of Objects (the neat new brown Verso Radical Thinkers edition) soon. I’m sorry I haven’t had a lot of useful things to say of late. Feel as though I’m 100 years behind the times. ;)

]]> By: anaj http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-240 anaj Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:18:45 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-240 p.s. please wait with circulation until I have a final version. Plan is to have that by tonight. p.s. please wait with circulation until I have a final version. Plan is to have that by tonight.

]]> By: anaj http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-239 anaj Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:09:46 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-239 *Sigh with relief* - I am glad they're taking good care of you down there. Will be working on the final version tonight and send you a postcard. *Sigh with relief* – I am glad they’re taking good care of you down there. Will be working on the final version tonight and send you a postcard.

]]> By: cerebraljetsam http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-235 cerebraljetsam Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:20:29 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-235 Dear anaj, I am writing to you from sunny Guantanamo, Cuba. It is great fun here. People always say it is terrible and wrong, but there is even this really burly guy whose only job is assisting people in writing e-mails that let people know how much fun we are having. Isn't that nice? The food is great as well--they have a special cook who is serving us a low-carb, low-protein diet (top notch! it is called the gitmo-beach diet). I needed to shed some pounds anyway and was never able to do it on my own. They really help you down here. We always think of prisons as dark and dreary. Not so! There is sunlight and bright halogen spots 24/7 and they also perpetually play music. They do not even have to turn it down for the night--must have cool neighbors here! Only downside: not everybody likes Ace of Base, but well. I was even thinking about getting a timeshare down here, but then I heard that Gitmo doesn't really belong to anyone--makes timeshares difficult to sell. Apparently the US has been trying to pay rent to Cuca for decades now, but for some strange reason Cuba always refuses to accept the check (something crazy about not willingly renting this place out, occupation, human rights, ... no idea--crazy communists, right?). Well, gotta go now. There are lots of activities planned for today. I was told that this afternoon we'll do some waterboarding. Not exactly sure what it is, but it sounds like fun. Seriously, it's like Club Med here. cheers, jetsam Dear anaj, I am writing to you from sunny Guantanamo, Cuba. It is great fun here. People always say it is terrible and wrong, but there is even this really burly guy whose only job is assisting people in writing e-mails that let people know how much fun we are having. Isn’t that nice?

The food is great as well–they have a special cook who is serving us a low-carb, low-protein diet (top notch! it is called the gitmo-beach diet). I needed to shed some pounds anyway and was never able to do it on my own. They really help you down here.

We always think of prisons as dark and dreary. Not so! There is sunlight and bright halogen spots 24/7 and they also perpetually play music. They do not even have to turn it down for the night–must have cool neighbors here! Only downside: not everybody likes Ace of Base, but well.

I was even thinking about getting a timeshare down here, but then I heard that Gitmo doesn’t really belong to anyone–makes timeshares difficult to sell. Apparently the US has been trying to pay rent to Cuca for decades now, but for some strange reason Cuba always refuses to accept the check (something crazy about not willingly renting this place out, occupation, human rights, … no idea–crazy communists, right?). Well, gotta go now. There are lots of activities planned for today. I was told that this afternoon we’ll do some waterboarding. Not exactly sure what it is, but it sounds like fun. Seriously, it’s like Club Med here.

cheers, jetsam

]]> By: anaj http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-234 anaj Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:28:36 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-234 Did you and Cabbage get my mail? Wanted to send you a draft version of the logo - and now noticed slight paranoia on my part. Could that get you into trouble?? Did you and Cabbage get my mail? Wanted to send you a draft version of the logo – and now noticed slight paranoia on my part. Could that get you into trouble??

]]> By: anaj http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-233 anaj Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:15:09 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-233 Oh no, PR is, oddly enough, not at all daunting. I read it slowly so that it won't end too soon. What I meant was the blog font (most blogs) - I#ve switched to Firefox, and font seems to generally smaller (even though I increased it already). Oh no, PR is, oddly enough, not at all daunting. I read it slowly so that it won’t end too soon. What I meant was the blog font (most blogs) – I#ve switched to Firefox, and font seems to generally smaller (even though I increased it already).

]]> By: cerebraljetsam http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-232 cerebraljetsam Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:03:20 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-232 Hi there! Yeah, reading _PR_ for the first time can be a somewhat daunting task. It has infected me at this point, however, and I have re-read it about 5 or 6 times by now (and I still feel like I should read it again--I'll teach it again in the fall, though). As far as JB is concerned, there is, of course, _Simulacra and Simulation_, but that is actually not as interesting as people always say it is (to me, at least). My favorite essays, which should be widely available, are: "The System of Objects," "Consumer Society," and "For a Critique of the Political Economy of the Sign." Especially the latter is very important for the discussion we are having. I am sure you can find each of them somewhere on the internet. There is also a fascinating essay by German critic Jost Mueller called "Die kritischen Intellektuellen und die Vergesellschaftlichung der Intelligenz." It is an essay on "mass-intellectuality" and directly responds to the problems raised in this thread. I am not sure if that one is available inthe internet, though. Hi there!
Yeah, reading _PR_ for the first time can be a somewhat daunting task. It has infected me at this point, however, and I have re-read it about 5 or 6 times by now (and I still feel like I should read it again–I’ll teach it again in the fall, though).
As far as JB is concerned, there is, of course, _Simulacra and Simulation_, but that is actually not as interesting as people always say it is (to me, at least). My favorite essays, which should be widely available, are: “The System of Objects,” “Consumer Society,” and “For a Critique of the Political Economy of the Sign.” Especially the latter is very important for the discussion we are having. I am sure you can find each of them somewhere on the internet.
There is also a fascinating essay by German critic Jost Mueller called “Die kritischen Intellektuellen und die Vergesellschaftlichung der Intelligenz.” It is an essay on “mass-intellectuality” and directly responds to the problems raised in this thread. I am not sure if that one is available inthe internet, though.

]]> By: anaj http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-231 anaj Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:49:40 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-231 Still reading PR - I think I have developed a text allergy, maybe. Long, uninterrupted lines with no pictures scare me. The size of the PR paperback is just perfect for me. I guess that's also why I often try to adorn my posts with in-line images. Nae, no allergy, I am just a victim of consumer culture:-) Must give it an even harder try. Still reading PR – I think I have developed a text allergy, maybe. Long, uninterrupted lines with no pictures scare me. The size of the PR paperback is just perfect for me. I guess that’s also why I often try to adorn my posts with in-line images. Nae, no allergy, I am just a victim of consumer culture:-) Must give it an even harder try.

]]> By: anaj http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-230 anaj Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:46:55 +0000 http://cerebraljetsam.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/day-40-capitalism-30-v-11/#comment-230 Ooooo, I cannot keep up with you. Just made my Baudrillard reply. Btw, which book/chapter/article by JB would you recommend to support the ideas you articulated in that post? Ooooo, I cannot keep up with you. Just made my Baudrillard reply. Btw, which book/chapter/article by JB would you recommend to support the ideas you articulated in that post?

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